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I am a “non
instrementalist” attending an instremental church. Who will cast the first
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CLARIFICATION #6: |
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I assume by your
comment you admit it’s sinful to use instrument in service to God. The
scripture you quoted goes on to say, “sin no more”.
Since you know it is sinful to use musical instrument, I’ll
concentrate on the dangerous state you are in. You see you are now sinning
willfully.
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| Heb 10:26 For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, | |
| Without repenting you will be guilty of the sin unto death, which is a sin not repented of. | |
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1Jo
5:16 If any man sees his
brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give
him life for them that sin not unto death.
There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
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Ro
6:16 Know ye not, that to
whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye
obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
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This
is not something to take lightly. It is transgressing the law of God,
which is sin. You must stop sinning willfully and that means to repent.
Yes we all sin, but we must turn away from the sin and ask for
forgiveness. Through the
grace and mercy of God we will receive remission of our sins, but only if
we repent and only if we ask. This is how we submit ourselves to God’s
will. If you need help finding a sound church in your area we would be
happy to help.
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COMMENT: #6 REPLY #1 |
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| would you please send me the book, chapter, and verse to show that music is sinful in worship. | |
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CLARIFICATION: #6 REPLY #1 |
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Instrumental music in worship service was added in 600 A.D., thus making it a tradition of man. You find me one verse in the New Testament authorizing the use of musical instruments. If it’s not been commanded then it is going beyond the Law.
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Matthew
15:6 And honor not his father
or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God
of none effect by your tradition.
Mark
7:8 For laying aside the
commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots
and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
Mark
7:9 And he said unto them,
Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own
tradition
Mark
7:13 Making the word of God
of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many
such like things do ye.
Acts
2:42 And they continued
steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of
bread, and in prayers.
Colossians
2:8 Beware lest any man spoil
you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after
the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
2
Thessalonians 2:15 Therefore,
brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught,
whether by word, or our epistle.
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Thessalonians 3:6 Now we
command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye
withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not
after the tradition which he received of us.
1
Timothy 1:3 As I besought
thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou
mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine,
1
Timothy 4:6 If thou put the
brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of
Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine,
whereunto thou hast attained.
1
Timothy 4:16 Take heed unto
thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou
shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee
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Timothy 6:3 If any man teach
otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord
Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
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Timothy 3:16 All scripture is
given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof,
for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2
Timothy 4:3 For the time will
come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts
shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
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Peter 1:18 Forasmuch as ye
know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and
gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; Re 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
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This
is what God did command .
Matthew
26:30 And when they had sung a hymn, they went out into the mount of
Olives.
Acts
16:25 And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God:
and the prisoners heard them.
1
Corinthians 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will
pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will
sing with the understanding also.
Ephesians
5:19 Speaking to yourselves
in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your
heart to the Lord;
Colossians
3:16 Let the word of Christ
dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in
psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to
the Lord.
Hebrews
2:12 Saying, I will declare
thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise
unto thee.
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COMMENT: #6 REPLY #2 |
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many
of the verses were Jesus speaking of the Old Law of Moses. But if you lump
music in as not commanded, add church busses, Wednesday night bible study,
board of trustees, Ect, ect.?
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CLARIFICATION: #6 REPLY #2 |
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There’s no denying
the New Testament command is to sing and make melody in your heart. You must
understand the commandment giving us authority to allow expediencies (aids
in which to fulfill a command).
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1Co
6:12 All things are lawful unto
me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I
will not be brought under the power of any. 1Co 10:23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
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This gives us
authority to use an expedient, but it must only be used to help fulfill a
command and it must be lawful first, (“All things are lawful unto me, but
all things are not expedient”) this means not to add or remove from the
law. To add another sound, other than singing is going beyond the command
and is not an acceptable expedient. The song leader is an acceptable
expedient so long as he is sing with one another and not a sole.
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Ephesians 5:19
Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and
making melody in your heart to the Lord;
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Colossians 3:16 Let
the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and
admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing
with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
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The pitch finder, is
used before the song and is not adding to the singing. This is only used to
help the song leader who is helping us all to keep the singing in a descent
order
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1Co 14:40
Let all things be done decently and in order.
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Things such as
electricity is not only required by mans law in order to have a building, it
also helps us to fulfill commands which require us to see (read, sing,
partake the Lord supper, etc.) Speaking of having a building this is an
expedient for us to come together and this is why we don’t have bingos,
pot luck dinners, birthday parties, etc., which is accepted by most
denominations which do not know how to interpret Gods word in allowing an
expedient. Not only do we have a command explaining the rules for
expedients, we also have examples. We use a microphone to make hearing a
sermon possible. I think it
falls in the same category as sitting on a rock or climbing up a tree as
Zacchaeus did.
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Luke 19:4
And he ran before, and climbed up into a sycamore tree to see him:
for he was to pass that way.
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Christ once used a
ship as an aid when speaking to a crowd.
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Matthew 13:2
And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went
into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.
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The next thing you
must understand is the different between general and specific commands. God
commanded Noah to build the ark of gopher wood. By specifying “Gopher”
God eliminated all other kinds of wood
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Gen. 6:14
Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark,
and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
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God’s command to
sing excludes any other kind of music. There are only two kinds of music,
vocal and instrumental. God has specified vocal.
God Specified making melody in the heart.
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Ephesians 5:19
Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and
making melody in your heart to the Lord;
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The next thing you
must understand is to respect the silence of the scriptures. Here is an
examples of how we respect the silence of the scriptures, “Mom sends me to
the store to buy milk & eggs. I come home with milk, eggs, and candy.
You did not tell me not to buy candy, I did not have to because I
specifically told you to buy milk & eggs.” When God specifies a thing
like singing there is no need for Him to say, “Now do not use the
instruments.
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